Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Is wearing a 'necktie' prohibited in Islam?

Assalam
goin thru the orkut commounities, i came across this really old thread....
just thot of postin it....

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11/28/07
maniar:
Is it allowed for Muslims to wear a Tie?
Is it allowed for Muslims to wear a Tie?
(Darul Uloom Amjadia, India, Printed in Monthly Kanzul Iman, India)

Q: Tie is commonly used among western community. Now it has become common among Muslims too. Especially during wedding ceremony Groom wears a tie with pride and some Muslim children also wear a tie in schools. Is it allowed for Muslims?
A: Hozoor Muftee-e-Azam Hind Aleh Rehma-tu-Rizwan writes that to wear a tie is definitely Haram and is a resemblance of Kafir. It is a bad deed and an open disobedience of ALLAH Tala Wal Ikram. In Christianity, tie is a remembrance of their false belief of crucifixion of Hazrat Syedna Masih Alhe Salam and forgiveness for Christians. (Fatwa Mustafvia, on page 526) Therefore it is not allowed for Muslims to wear a tie neither during a wedding ceremony nor on any occasion. Do not send your children to schools where tie is a part of uniform code. Because wearing a tie is Haram and it is a must for Muslims to refrain him/herself from Haram and also protect his/her family from Haram.
Allah Tala says *1, means "O believers!, 'save yourselves and your family members from the fire of hell". (Part 28, Soorah Tehreem, Ayah 6) Allah Ta'ala Knows the best.

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JaLpArI:
I hate to differ. . .
Assalam all. .
i think the post above is made on few false beliefs. . .
firstly. . I had never heard of any relation between the tie and crucifixion. . . So i searched google. . For "necktie". . Got nothing to do with christ or crucifixion . .
then, i tried"necktie+crucifixion"and got this link to answers by a Mr. Salahi(i cant copy paste the link. . Please do the search for the link). . I think that should clear the doubts. .
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JaLpArI:
If you use your heads for a while. . You would understand that . . Tie is definitely a symbol of western culture. . Just as salwar kameez would signify eastern culture. . An indian muslim wearing a tie . . Should not , then , be much different from an american nonmuslim wearin a salwar kameez. . It doesnt change your religion. . Islam gives a code for the dress you wear. Like. . It should cover you properly, it should be modest, it shouldn tightly hug your body, should be see through. N it shouldn ape another religion. .
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JaLpArI:
Ape another religion would mean. . Wearing those shirts and stuff with OM written all over. . Wearing a long tilak on your forehead. . And things which we know that a particular religion does. . I am indian but i don chant OM daily coz. . Its not in my religion. . But i year salwar kameez. . . Which i don think has anything to do with islam. . Saudi arabia doesnt have a native dress called salwar kameez. . That women wore in Huzur(S.A.W) ke days. Or even now. . So, even this dress, by your theory should be banned. .
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JaLpArI:
Its just a matter of cultures. . Allah Paak has created up all in different forms , in different races, in different colors, in different cultures. . . If something is not against Islam, there is no need to ban it , just coz it is "Western". .

i came to know through google. That iran. . Still doesn allow Ties coz it is a symbol of western oppression. . True. . If you said that i would agree. . That i should wear a tie and rather year khadi. . To show my indianness . . But that would be east vs west. . Which is ok. .
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JaLpArI:
But keeping Islam vs West is stupid. . . I agree that many , in fact most in the West are against islam. . But. If we just blindly pay them back the way they do to us. . There is no reason to say islam teaches a better way. .
if Allah Almighty Himself Says that He is the God of both maghrib and mashrik. . Then who are we to say that the west is all at fault always. . . If every western thing is a bane. . Tell those people to stop using computers . . I don think computers or the internet or MS word, etc , were invented by an Arab or am Indian or pakistani. .
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JaLpArI:
So, the bottomline is . . Not wearin a tie coz you want to be true indian . . Wearin only Indian attire. , and tie symbolizes western culture. Is cool. . Gr8. . Good. . Butnot wearin a tie. . Coz you are a muslim and tie is western. . ?. ? ? ? Senseless. .

rest. . Allah knows best . .
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:JaLpArI
P.S
Please excuse the spelling mistakes. . .
*dress SHOULDN be see through. .
plus. . Many more spelling errors. .



Jan 19 (3 days ago)
saji:
s i agree with u
v should not blindly b aganist west.east or west ,allah is best,the west is also allah created,west is not banned by islam.its true that islam is the best religion in this world,but where is islam,were r the muslims,


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and here's a link to a site which is quite like the stuff 'maniar' from the above thread mentioned.Muslim unity
i don't buy the history of the neck tie, and even if it is... i don't think it any longer signifies the cross.... i don't buy it as much as i don't buy that widely circulated message of not using mosque coz it's been derived from the word mosquito. and bout emulating Huzur (S.A.W), sure we shud... let's stop wearing the shoes we do, no one in Arabia 1500 years ago wore such shoes, and how bout the sanitary toilets that we use???? now which Arab invented it???? and belts? and wallets? and how bout the way in which we spin the yarn now???? same as in Arabia back then? let's make the whole world a big big Saudi Arabia.... game?

newaz
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Allah hafiz



5 comments:

NiDa said...

Actually sis, a tie is not Haram in the sense that it symbolies western dominance and opression, rather (from my understanding) that the majority of ties are made from silk! And in Islam Silk is forbidden for men just like wiggs are forbidden for women.

Abu Moosa (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Gold and silk have been permitted for the females of my ummah and forbidden for the males.”
and... reported by al-Bukhaari (5853) and Muslim (2069) in the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both), who reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Silk is only worn in this world by the one who will have no share of the pleasure of the Hereafter.” Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever wears silk in this world will not wear it in the Hereafter.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 5832).

InshaAllah this clearifies things a little! :)

JaLpArI said...

well sister, if you say it that way.. then im totally for it...

but, having said that , i'd wish people were clearer in wat they spoke coz' religion means a lot to everyone of us.. we take decisions based upon religion, many times...

people shud be specific in saying that 'silk' is haram.. and not 'tie' and esp by givin some lame reason of associating it with the west and the crucufication of Jesus A.S.

ya..:) u did clearify things, sister..!!! thanks.
and Allah bless

Asim said...

Even in the West, most working class do not wear a necktie, and they do not even care. There are no injunctions in Islam that you cannot wear a necktie, if you wish you may.
Mullahs must recognize that it is not a good idea to put Islam against Europe and America. Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe today, and we should let this trend continue. We should aim at providing spiritual enlightement and wealth to these lonley people who have everything in the world except peace of mind and true happiness.

JaLpArI said...

@ASIM
yupps!!!
i agree totally

Asim said...

Jalpari
Your approval of my humble comments show that you are mashallah a progressive Muslimah.
Without diluting the spirit and message of Islam, we must try to accomodate and attract those who find some practical wisdom in Islam.
America is a land thirsting for the Fountains of Islam. It is waiting to turn into a "Gulistan" of Islam. When Americans embrace Islam, they will be the best Muslims the world ever had.
I like your blog, and just joined yesterday, and feel very impressed by your broad-minded views.
Keep up the good work.